By putting up this simple web page, I've managed to catch the attention of
several people who have written nice notes, and often included useful
information. I've included some of them here. It's getting somewhat long, so
I've rearranged them to show the newest first. There are about twenty-five
emails here, and many have attachments and links.
Many emails include unanswered questions.
If you have any answers to questions posed here, please write to the person
asking, and I'd appreciate it if you'd CC a copy to me, at email@example.com,
so I can add the info to this page.
It's pretty obvious from the material here, that the real present day Hadley
Terry McLean, and
Tom Nash. Thanks especially to you four for your contributions. Maybe we'll meet some
And thanks to all who've written.
September 2, 1999
From: Terry McLean
To all Hadley researchers:
The Hadley Society home page has moved to Rootsweb. It can now be viewed at:
Please change your bookmarks/favorites. This change gives us more room and you will soon seen things at this site we have been unable to post before. Soon you will be able to view:
- All of John Hadley's research reports
- Searchable database
and other helpful info.
Thank you for your support.
Terry Pickens McLean
Historian, Hadley Society
June 28, 1999
From: Janet Hunter
On the Hadley Genealogy Forum.
There are several posts of fairly recent origins that continue the royal lineage back to all of those Turks and pretty much everyone in any royal family in Europe in the 1000-1400 period. I am very new to genealogy, but much aware of the problems with the lineage.
The genforum posts remained the last time I looked unchallenged.
On the other hand, I HAVE made contacts at the Hadley forum with cousins b. ca. 1780s or so. FYI, I think genforum is tremendously underrated. I have made as many surname contacts and received clues there as I have on NY rootsweb list and or USGENWeb county projects. If you have brickwalls, it is not a bad place at all to go.
Janet Hunter (Simon IIJoshua & Mary RowlandRuth & John MarshallAbraham Marshall and Martha DoaneThomas Marshall (my last Quaker, disowned by New Hope MM, Greene Co TN for "offering to fight"..to bad records lost) & Elizabeth Fortner
June 28, 1999
From: Diane Hattler
I don't know if anyone has seen this website or not, but thought I would forward it along.
June 27, 1999
From: Terry McLean (John Hadley)
Subject: Hadley Surname origins
Our good friend John Hadley has discovered that his server does not allow him to make mailings to large groups of addresses at one time. Therefore, from time to time, I will forward messages of general
interest to the group on his behalf. John has been hard at work digging into the origins of the HADLEY family and has much to share. Thanks John!
Terry: This is some interesting info on the origination of our Hadley surname. Please forward to the list on my behalf. Thanks, John Hadley...
Here's some historical background on Shropshire and the Domesday book. William de Hadley (de Hedlega) became the lord of the manor Hadley after Rainauld. It is assumed he was a second or third son and took the surname from the place they resided, William of HADLEY. The Normans were part of the Viking empire, and popularized the use of the surname to identify the owner as claimant to lands and titles. Although the name Hadley (Hedlega) is certainly of Saxon origin, it almost certain that William de Hadley and his ancestors were Norman. Very few Saxons were allowed to hold any lands after the Conquest. This is what I believe to be the origin of the use of the surname Hadley. I also think it likely that we come directly from this Shropshire Hadley line. So did Kingston Goddard Hadley and Captain Cook who did much early work on our Hadley family.
Shropshire and the Domesday Book in 1086
Roger de Montgomery II, better known as Earl Roger in the Domesday, but officially the seigneur of Montgomery, was the major recipient of Shropshire holdings. An old man of considerable wealth and power, he contributed 60 ships to the invasion fleet and was in command of a wing at the Battle of Hastings. He returned to Normandy with Queen Matilda, and the young Duke Robert as Duke William's representative in Normandy.
He became head of the council that governed the Duchy of Normandy in Duke William's frequent absences in England. The Norman Montgomery family ancestry was closely interwoven either by blood or marriage with the Duchy of Normandy.
However, the family history in Normandy was not without blemish. Roger had four brothers, Hugh, Robert, William and Gilbert. All four brothers were murdered in revenge for the murder of Osberne de Crepon, guardian of Duke William. Roger was the survivor. Continuing, Roger de Montgomery had four sons. Eldest was Robert, Count of Alencon, and successor in Normandy to his vast estates which he still held for his father Roger as his chief domain. He was followed by second son, Hugh, who inherited the Earldom of Arundel, Chichester and Shrewsbury, the life custodian of the main Montgomery family domains granted in England. These would eventually go to Robert in 1098, purchased from William Rufus for 3000 pounds. Next youngest was Count Roger de Poitou who was made the first Earl of Lancaster by Duke William of Normandy, a less maganamious grant which befitted the third youngest son. Philip, the youngest, remained in Normandy and accompanied Duke Robert on the first crusade to the Holy land, and died there in 1094. Earl Roger was responsible to Duke William of Normandy as his chief architect in the defence of the middle marches of the border in his defence against the Welsh. He built many castles including Montgomery, Shrewsbury, Arundel, Ludlow, Clun, Hopton and Oswestry. His son, Robert, described at the Conquest as a 'novice in arms', but who might have been 40 by the Domesday, represented his father Earl Roger, and created some confusion in the records. Roger, the father, became the Earl of Shrewsbury and the Earl of Arundel in England, and retained his domains in Normandy at Bailleul (Kings of Scotland), Belmeis (Beaumais), Pantulf, Vimoutiers, Say and Tornai. However, Earl Roger also became confused with Roger de Beaumont in Normandy, who, it is claimed, was also head of the council in Normandy. But historians tend to think of this period as being locked in marble. The volatility of the favours of the Norman court were dynamic, heavily laced with treachery by land hungry Norman nobles eager to share in the prize of this new and wealthy land, England. The Beaumonts, Counts of Meulan in Normandy who became Earls and Counts of Leicester in England, do not seem to be related to the Montgomerys in any significant way and were very powerful in their own right, and, in a different time frame, Roger de Beaumont could also have been head of the Norman governing Council.
Since over 90% of the lordships and manors of Shropshire were held in Chief at the Domesday by the powerful Earl Roger, it is perhaps more interesting to determine the intricate cross-weave of under tenants of Norman nobles who assisted in the administration of these domains. Surprisingly, very little of Shropshire was retained by the King as his own land, and very little given to the Churches and Bishops as was the usual procedure. Nevertheless, we are here dealing with the Domesday Book record, 20 years after the Conquest.
In the intervening period, Earl Roger, who must by Domesday have been a very old man, and his son Robert, may well have grown and consolidated the original grants after the Conquest to a sizeable mini-kingdom on the Welsh border, particularly since the domains were constantly changing, shifting, accomodating the intrusions and wasting by the Welsh, and imposing great flexibility in the border boundaries. Almost all of Derbyshire was held by Earl Roger but we have listed some of the interesting under-tenants who held Castles, lordships or villages for him and some which he still held as tenant-in-chief:
Rainauld the Sheriff's Shropshire Land Holdings in Domesday 1086
Rainald the Sheriff, of Shropshire, otherwise Rainald de Balgiole or Baliol, another of Earl Roger's domains in Normandy, was also a tenant in chief in Staffordshire. He also assisted in the administration of Earl Roger's Shropshire. He was married to Amiera, Earl Roger's niece. Rainald or Renaud was at the Battle of Hastings. He may be one and the same as Pierre, Knight of Balliol and Fecamp who contributed one ship and twenty men-at-arms to the battle, or perhaps a brother of Pierre. Undoubtedly, subsequent Kings of Scotland were descended from this source which also produced Bishops of Lincoln. (Rainauld hels the Manor of Hadley in the Domesday Book)
Picot's Shropshire Land Holdings in Domesday 1086
William de Picot, also known as Picot de Say, was a knight of another Montgomery domain in Normandy (see above). His chief domain was at Clun Castle, part of a cluster of castles including Richards Castle and Bishops Castle, a line of defence against the Welsh intruders to the west. He was probably son of Robert Pigot, Lord of Broxton in Cheshire. The surname Piggot descended. They were also Lords of Butley in that same shire. William Picot was an under-tenant to Earl Roger in Shropshire.
June 23, 1999
From: Terry McLean
John is having trouble getting the 'mail to members' feature to work, so has asked me to forward the following to fellow HADLEY researchers:
The following tax rolls were sent to me by EJ Ryder, one of our fellow Hadley researchers. There may be more here than meets the eye. There are several Hadley families listed in the Shropshire towns, particularly Halesowen. Thomas, William and John. There's even a George. These are likely the relatives of Symon Hadley who died in 1590. Also many Pygots. One thing that stuck in my head was the Symons family from the hamlet of villa de Milson. They paid the largest tax and were therefore likely the lords of this manor. I think it possible that a Hadley married a Symons lass and behold, Symon Hadly. Another interesting point was that in the few listings for Quatt, where Simon Hadley died in 1590, the lord is listed as Edwardo de Wolrych. This was the same family who lists Symon Hadley as their vassal landholder in the 1564 document I sent out earlier. Nothing new, but a reconfirmation that these families were established for some time in these locations.
As a summary, I found in the 1661 Lay subsidy : Richard Hadley gentleman, Thomas Hadley nayler, Thomas Hadley of Halesowen nayler, John Hadley nayler, John Hadley of Rudgacre blacksmith, George Hadley weaver, George Hadley nayler, and Thomas Talbot, yeoman. Almost 50% of the male population of Shropshire were naylers at this time. This meant they made nails. So we have iron nail producers and a blacksmith. I smell a connection. In the Tudor Lay Subsidy rolls I found the following: July 8, 1524 Clarely cum membris Thomas Hadley; Halesowen cum membris William, John and John; Jan 23 1525 Broughton Thomas Hadley, Halesowen John John William and Thomas; July 29 1542 from the hundred of Brymstere Johanne Hydley ; villa de Halesowen Johe Hydley and Willo Hadley, and from villa de Lappell and villa de Longle Wallagel Thomas Hadley. October 24, 1544 in the villa de Quat Wotten and Mose is De Edwardo Wolrych. Later, in 1571 and 1572 we find under the Elizabeth I rolls for Halesowen Thomas Hadley. These are not all inclusive and are mainly for the wealthiest people in the areas. They are also primarily focused on the west side of Shropshire and "our" Hadleys were mostly from the east side. So we are fortunate to find some of these listings in this work, which was done by a Mr. Potter. I have a dialogue going with him now and we'll see if any more leads ensue. The program Mr. Potter put on the web has some virus problems in 2 rolls that I could not see because of this, so we'll possibly get some more clues when they are repaired.
June 15, 1999
From: Terry McLean
An Update for all Hadley Cousins....
Thanks to the hard work and generosity of Mitch Fincher, we have a new mail list for Hadley Researchers at PhoneLists.com. This will free up a lot of our time to answer queries and aid you in your research, as well as getting newsletters and other information out in a timely manner.
PhoneLists.com is a new web service established by Mitch, with whom I have a long and productive PICKENS family correspondence. The PhoneLists.com page will be much more accessible and flexible than our current 'Researchers' page. Please note that your personal information is private and never sold.
A major problem with the current Researchers Page is that people have to email me with updates to their info, like new email addresses, changes in their family info, etc. With PhoneLists.com, anyone can join (or leave) at their discrection AND everyone can update their own information. I think this will improve the quality of the information, as well as being current. Also you will be able to email everyone on the list a little easier. The list is also printable.
The url is http://www.PhoneLists.com. Our list name is "hadley" and the password is also "hadley" (no quotes). You can bookmark the page and your browser will remember the list name and password for future reference.
This list is managed by you. You may go in at anytime and update or change your information. If you have a change in email address, please change it here, and the new one will immediately be available to all researchers.
PLEASE NOTE that you have the option to go in and establish your own password for your individual information so that it can only be accessed by you and the list owner, which is me. Although I can 'unlock' your information, I do NOT have access to your password, but use a master password that is used to manage the entire list.
We are quite excited about the flexibilty of this new list. Please take time to read the the instructions and the FAQs. Mitch is very responsive to comments and suggestions.
Many of your lines are not entered on the list. I have not yet had time to do all the updates, and if you can update your own, it will save me a lot of time. And you can incorporate any new information you may be aware of.
PLEASE remember when adding your line and family info, to respect the privacy of living family members. We continue to have mail with concerns regarding publishing information about living persons on the internet.
Please contact me with any questions. I have added all who have corresponded with me in the past regarding HADLEY. If you remove your name from this list, I will not put it back on. From now on I will direct researchers to put their own information up on the list. If you choose to be removed from this list, you will stay off until you place your name back on yourself.
Thanks for all your support and hard work and willingness to share with the other Hadley Researchers!
Terry Pickens McLean
Historian, Hadley Society
June 2, 1999
From: John Hadley
Subject: Mass. Hadleys
I am forwarding this info on the Massachusetts Hadleys. It's very well written, and although not about the descendents of Simon Hadley, it was still interesting to me as I get a lot of emails from non-Simon descendents who are trying to find their Hadley roots. I hope this may help you help some other Hadleys as well. BTW, Terry McLean helped talk me through the uploading of all the family data base last night via Ancestral Quest 3.0. So I'll be able to add my research to the computer data base which will be put on CD ROM. Terry and others in the Hadley Society have worked long and hard to update the original 3 volumes by Lyle Hadley(Healton). I mentioned that my line spelled the name "Hadly", until the middle of the 19th century all the way back to Simon (Symon). She said something to me I had not heard before. That was the Quakers thought using the "e" was flamboyant and inappropriate. Well, excuse meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !!!!!!!!!
From: Terry McLean firstname.lastname@example.org
Subject: Mass. Hadleys
John, have you seen the attached? I downloaded it months ago, and never had time to look at it. I follows the one of the desc. of George Hadley. More info than I have previously seen on this line. Since it is not ours, it is mainly FYI, but since you retain info so well, thought you might like a look at it.
(Click here to read or download this 119 page Acrobat document)
March 20, 1999
From: John Hadley
As a result of some of my research being put on the Hadley Society web site, I have been getting a lot of correspondence from family researchers. I am delighted to help whenever I can. Just a few days ago I was asked where I got the info about Joshua Hadley and Margery Lindley having an illegitimate child. I love it when people check on sources instead of just repeating stories. In this case, I didn't know, but had received the info from Thomas Hamm, who I believe to be one of the finest researchers in the US. He is the historian and archivist at Earlham University in Indiana. This is the Quaker college where Chalmers Hadley attended. Anyway, I realized my oversight and wrote to Tom to get the documentation. His reply is below. Just yesterday I was able to look in the Hadley books and help Richard Hadley find his branch of our tree. Last night I talked with William John Hadley, who lives in Portland OR about a mile from me, and found he was from the Hadley Massachusetts line. I sent him the name of a friend who has a research group going for this line of the Hadleys (Barbara Mann). I have another lookup on my computer tonight. Sharing is really the heart of this effort, and I truly appreciate all the good we are accomplishing together.
From: Thomas Hamm email@example.com
Subject: Re: Hadley/Lindley
Date: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 10:20 AM
Thanks for your message and the report. I'll send the documentation for Joshua Hadley and Margery Lindley.
Here's the promised information.
New Garden MM Men's Minutes, Chester Co., PA.
1st Mo. 27, 1736: Complaint from New Garden Preparative Meeting: "Margery Lindley says she is with Child by Joshua Hadley which he denyes yet she says true & he has since gone and married an other young woman by a priest therefore this meeting appoints Michael Lightfoot, Joseph Sharpe & Wm. Miller to Endeavor to have Joshua and Margery together & here what they have to say & to prepare a Testimony for ye Clearing of Truth."
2nd Mo. 24, 1736: "Joshua Hadley declining to meet those appointed before Margery Lindley A Testimony is signed against each of them & Isaac Jackson Senr to see them read to Newgarden and send Joshua's to Notingham that friends there may have such use of it as they think proper."
3rd Mo. 29, 1736. New Garden Preparative Meeting informs that James Harlan "was assistant to Joshua Hadley in his marriage by ye priest and it was intimated several times Drinks strong Liquor to excess."
I used abstracts of the New Garden records done by Gilbert Cope at the Genealogical Society of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia, rather than the original minute book, but Cope's work is quite reliable.
Date: March 5, 1999
GENEALOGY BOUNTY COMING TO THE WEB
Mormons set to bring part of vast collection of records online
Newhouse News Service
by Marge Wylie
[quoted on the MSNBC website, forwarded by Tom Nash]
4/99 update - Here's the URL: http://www.familysearch.org/
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints collects genealogical records
of all kinds because the Mormons believe it is important to perform religious
rites on behalf of dead ancestors. It has the world's largest collection of
THE NEW WEB SITE (www.familysearch.org) won't officially launch until
mid-April, but it is expected to "go live" for testing any day now.
Church officials originally planned to leave the site open to all during the
test period. But for fear of being swamped, they now may limit access to
official testers with assigned passwords.
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints collects genealogical records
of all kinds because the Mormons believe it is important to perform religious
rites on behalf of dead ancestors. It has the world's largest collection of
Genealogy is one of the most popular subjects on the Internet. As more
information goes online, it seems to create more genealogists. About 100
million Americans have at least dabbled in it, and 19 million actively research
their family history, according to a 1995 Maritz Marketing Research study for
American Demographics magazine.
Rootsweb (www.rootsweb.org) has more than 200,000 subscribers to 3,000 e-mail
lists about genealogy. The number of subscribers is growing rapidly, according
to John V. Wylie, a professional genealogist from Grand Prairie, Texas. Wylie
is a co-founder of GENTECH (www.gentech.org), a non-profit
society to help genealogists use technology.
Mormon Church officials are vague about what Web surfers can expect to find on
their new site, but that hasn't dampened genealogists' enthusiasm. "I
think the reaction is probably going to be unanimously, 'Wow! It's about
time!"' said Marthe Arends, editor of the newsletter Pioneers Online
(www.eskimo.com/~mnarends), based in Bellevue, Wash. The newsletter helps
genealogists use the Internet.
With 2.1 million rolls of microfilm, 700,000 microfiches and 280,000 books, the
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (www.lds.org) is the ultimate
source for many genealogists. The master collection, which includes the birth,
death and marriage records of an estimated 6 billion people, is kept in a vault
carved 900 feet into the side of Granite Mountain. Completed in 1964, the
vault is a testament to the importance the Church places on tracing one's
ancestors and performing for them vicarious ordinances of baptism and marriage
so that those who lived and died before Joseph Smith founded the church in 1830
can enjoy the benefits of God's grace. The vault contains six separate
chambers, each 200 feet long, 30 feet wide and 15 feet tall. The entire vault, dug into the side of the canyon,
lies 800 to 900 feet under the mountaintop. The microfilm records are
maintained at a temperature below 70 degrees Fahrenheit and at a humidity below
March 4, 1999
I have cut and pasted an extract from the Manorial records in Shropshire,
below. This didn't scan well and I had to do it in OCR which turned it into
scrambled eggs. I cleaned up the relevant portion and voila. It still is
scrambled but the words are readable.This tells us that the Wolryche family
were the overlords of this area. There are other docs back to Jan 4 1431 that
show this family holding these properties. Remember that the king or queen was
the actual land owner, and everyone else paid rents all the way down the line.
The Hadleys are listed as tenants of some of these properties. This is almost
certainly the Symon Hadley who died in 1590 at Quatt. Interesting that the
other Hadeleys mentioned had a different spelling, and the Pygott family was
also involved. Apparently the Pygotts and Hadleys go way back. This doesn't
prove anything new regarding this family, but it does indicate that the family
was well entrenched in this area for several generations. John, Thomas and
Symon Hadley are certainly our family names. We now know that they were below
the Wolryches in the pecking order of land "rights" for several
generations. We are hopeful to find some more family references in the Manorial
documents. It is unlikely we will ever find absolute proof about our Symon I,
but the additional info may help future Hadley researchers and it is
interesting to add to our knowledge base of the Hadley family in England, such
a long time ago. I'll keep you posted.
2922/3/9 24 April 6 Elizabeth (1564)
1. William Wolryche of Dudmaston, esq.
2. Thomas Poyner of Beslowe, esq.
In consideration of a marriage already had between William Wolryche and
Dorothy one of the daughters of Thomas Poyner, William 'Wolryche covenants
before the Nativity of St. john the Baptist., next to convey to Thomas
Poyner and to Robert Pygott and Thomas Screven esqs, Francisse Gattacre,
William Poyner, Franceis Muckelowe, Rychard Broke, Thomas Pygott, Franceis
Wolryche, Edward Screven, William Whytcombe, John Poyner and John Byest,
gents. the Manor of Dudmaston and all his property in Dudmaston,
Prestopp,Whytley Fields, Claverley, Cotton, Asteley, Alveley and Quatt, to
uses. As concerning lands and tenements of William Wolryche of the yearly
value of t39 16s 10d in Prestopp, Whytley Fields, Cotton , Asteley,
Claverley, Alveley and Quatt (Rychard Persons, John Wedgewood, Homfrey
Gough, Foulke Persons, John Baule, John Wannerton, Thomas Hadeley, John
Potter, John Potter, Thomas Wyks, Rychard Payne, Thomas Hooke, Symon
Hadley, John Dovye, James Reignolds, Gyles Jurden, John Pryce, Richard
Hyll and Elizabeth Broke, widow) to the use of William and Dorothy and
their corporeal heirs, and in default to William and his heirs forever;
and concerning the residue of the property of William, to the use of
William and his heirs by Dorothy, in default to William and his heirs
forever. Provided that if Dorothy dies in the lifetime of William, then
William for the jointure of any other'wife or preferment of his children,,
or payment of his debts and performance of his will,demise,grant,let or
devise the property appointed to be the jointure of Dorothy and all the
profits of the same for 3 lives or less or 20 years or' less. If William
dies in the lifetime of Dorothy he may let property worth i2O pa.,except
March 4, 1999
This is good work and there are several family researchers interested in the Ashmores. I am going to forward your email to some of the other researchers and hopefully, this Ashmore connection can be better understood. I look forward to seeing the results of your studies, and I hope some of the other Hadley researchers will contact you with their info on this connection. Please forward any juicy details to yours truly.
Date: Thursday, March 04, 1999 7:18 PM
I have ordered about 8 books on Chester & Lancaster Co's PA, hopefully there will be some information that will be of use. I have learned of a Richard Ashmore, who lived in Hallam Twp, Lancaster Co, spouse's name was MARGERY, & a step-son named JOSHUA, there is suppose to be an administration for Richard Ashmore in the year 1737 or 9. Now the question is.....is this Margery the Margery that had Joshua Hadley's child???? I am going to order his administration and see if there is any valuable information that would be of use. I will keep you posted.
January 13, 1999
This was sent to me by Terry McLean of the Hadley Society and she gave me the
ok to pass it around to interested researchers. Later
John, I came across this today in the files. It was a photocopy of the actual
will. Very legible for the most part. Perhaps you have already seen this or
have a copy, but if not, you will want it for your file. If you want a copy of
the will itself, I will try to get a copy scanned and off to you asap.
(300k .jpg, 1255x1950)
From other records in my own line I show that Phebe was married first to
Richard BUFFINGTON and had at least 6 children. One of those children was
married in 1742, making Phebe's date of birth at least 1715, if not earlier.
[Lontz, OUR GERMAN, PILGRIM, AND QUAKER ANCESTORS, p. 51.]
The child Nathaniel, mentioned in Phebe's will, must be a BUFFINGTON also, tho
she does not name him as such. I think she and Simon did not have children
together, but I could be mistaken. However, Nathaniel is not on Lontz' list of
BUFFINGTON children. Also in her will Phebe mentions her son in law, Samuel
O___? [I think it is Osburn, but it is smudged], that means there is another
daughter who does not appear on Lontz' list. He only lists Phebe, whom we know
married to John WALL.
So, there you have it - something perhaps new to you? :)
The second item is the marriage cert. of Katherine HADLEY and Robert JOHNSON.
(Katherine is d/o Simon and Ruth).
WILL OF PHOEBE (GRUBB) HADLEY:
"Be it remembered that I Phebe HADLEY of the Township of West Bradford in
the County of Chester & Province of Pennsylvania, Widdow, knowing the
uncertainty of Life do make this my Last will & Testament in the following
Imprimus? My Will is that all my Just debts and funeral charges be first paid
and discharged as soon as may be after my decease by my Executor, hereafter
Item - I give to the Heir of my Late Husband Simon HADLEY the sum of Five?
Item - I give unto my daughter Phebe WALL the wife of John WALL all my wearing
Item - I give unto my son Nathaniel all the Bonds and Debts which are now due
to me or payable from him in Lieu of all other Bequests
Item - I give unto my son Peter BUFFINGTON and my son-in-law John WALL the
several obligations and debts that they are now indebted to me respectively to
each their respective debts in Lieu of all other bequests.
Item - I give thirty pounds to be equally divided between all my children now
living and my son in law Samuel Of___? and my granddaughter Frances BUFFINGTON
share and share alike it being for building a house on my land
And all the remainder part of my estate both real and personal not heretofore
bequeathed I give to my sons John BUFFINGTON his heirs and assigns forever, he
or they providing for me a good and sufficient maintainence during my natural
life and decently burying me when I am dead.
Lastly I do hereby constitute nominate and appoint my son John BUFFINGTON to be
sole executor of this my last will and Testament and I do hereby utterly revoke
and disannul all other and former wills by me heretofore made ratifying and
confirming this and no other to be my last will and testament.
In witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal this second day of the
ninth month anno domini 1767.
Signed sealed published and declared by the testator [signed]
as her last will and testament in the presents of us | Phebe HADLEY
Richard BUFFINGTON, Robert BUFFINGTON } [illegible, with a date]
MARRIAGE RECORD of Robert JOHNSON and Katherine HADLEY:
Whereas Robert JOHNSON son of Robert JOHNSON of Newgarden in ye? County
of Chester in ye? province of Pensilvenia, and Katherin HADLY daughter of Simon
HADLY of Newcastle County on Delaware, Having declared their intentions of
Marriage with each other before several Monthly Meeting of ye? Christian people
called Quakers at Londongrove? & Newgarden in ye? County of Chester aforesd
according to ye? good order?___ amongst them &
having consent of parents and relations their sd? proposal of Marriage was
alowed [sic] by ye? sd Meetings.
Now? these are to certifie whom it may concern that for ye full accomplishing
their said intentions this nineteenth day of ye Eight month in ye year of our
Lord: 1732: they ye sd Robert JOHNSON and Katherin HADLY appeared in a publick
meeting of ye sd people at Newgarden Meeting house in ye County of Chester
aforesd and ye sd Robert JOHNSON taking ye sd Katherin
HADLY by ye hand did in solenm maner [sic] openly declare that he took her ye
sd Katherin HADLY to be his wife promising with he Lords assistance to be unto
her a loving & faithfull Husband untill Death should separate them.... And then
& there in ye sd assembly ye said Katherin HADLY did in like maner [sic]
declare that she took ye sd Robert JOHNSON to be her
husband promising with ye Lords assistance to be unto him a faithfull & loving
wife untill death should seperate them... And Moreover they ye sd Robert
JOHNSON & Katherin HADLY she according to ye Custom of Marriage presents? sett?
their hands. And we being present at ye solemnization of ye sd marriage }
Robert JOHNSON and subscription Do as Witnesses hereunto
} Kathren JOHNSON our names ye Day and year above written.
William HAMMANS Mary LIGHTFOOT
Ephriam JACKSON ____ JACKSON Simon HADLY
Michael? LIGHTFOOT Katherine _______ Ruth HADLY
______ _______ ______ __________ _____ _______
E___? _______ Sarah MILHOUS Margret JOHNSON
William JACKSON Martha HOBSON [a name here?]
Thomas GRAY Ruth MILLER Joshua HADLY
John POE? Rebeka YARNALL Joshua JOHNSON
Joseph ____? Rachel? YARNALL Sarah JOHNSON
___ _____?? Hannah DIXON
Joseph _____? Abigail BAILY
Thomas YARNALL Samuel JACKSON
a handwritten note at the bottom of this states:
The original of this "Marriage Certificate" is in the manuscript
department of "the Historical Society of Pennsylvania" 1300 Locust
St, Philadelphia, PA, 19107.
Robert & Margaret (BRAITHWAITE) JOHNSON son Robert married Katherine HADLEY
daughter of Simon & Ruth (MILLER) KERAN HADLEY
Their daughter Lydia JOHNSON married Thomas BALDWIN.
Their daughter Catherine BALDWIN married Samuel LILLEY.
Their son Walter B. LILLEY married Rachel MARCH.
Their son Abner LILLEY married Elizabeth WEBER.
Their daughter Anna Margaret LILLEY married Amos FOULK.
Their daughter Mary Elizabeth FOULK married James McCulley BYRNES.
Their son Bob BYRNES.
This is a Zerox [sic] copy of the original marriage certificate in the PA
Historical Society. Bob Byrnes, 1979. File in Philadelphia
January 10, 1999
Thank you so much for all this information. I'm trying to
organize it in the midst of chaos at home.
I still remember Phebe fondly as the first female Quaker minister
I discovered. She was mentioned as, "Phebe Buffington, widow of
Richard Buffington, a Quaker Preacher." I took the reference to
my husband, an English professor, and said, "Which one was the
preacher?" He said, "It could refer to either one." So I
started looking. . . . Anyway, I have often wondered if the
Hadley-Buffington marriage was arranged by the church to give her
the freedom to travel and preach and to provide someone to take
care of her children while she traveled. I have no proof of this
-- except that I have run across indications that there was a
prenuptial agreement giving her a settlement in her own name. I
gather this was somewhat unusual at the time. And apparently she
did travel and preach. I would like to know if anyone has any
evidence to either support or deny this idea.
And I would be interested in scanned copies of any original
materials . . .
December 29 1998
I am forwarding a couple of letters I've written in answer to questions
regarding Thomas and Benjamin Hadley. These are pages scanned from my
unfinished book into OCR, which turns some of it into scrambled eggs. I have
tried to correct as much of the scramble as I can with my limited
computer skills. There are several mistakes in the content, and I have a lot
more to add to these accounts that I have collected in the last 2 years since
they were written. However, I thought it may answer a few questions and also
was a lot easier than retyping. This was still a lot of work for me and I
thought I might get a bit more out of it by sending these letters on to all the
other Hadley researchers I know. If you have any additional info or corrections
to these accounts, please email me and let me know, so I can get the
"final" version right.
of the man who fired the fatal bullet, killing Thomas Hadley, was McPhail, not
McAlpin. He also recounts a rather interesting sequel to these events:
- A close friend named Campbell swore vengeance for Hadley's murder and, each
Sunday, carried his rifle to church with the announced intention of killing
McPhail who apparently concluded that there were healthier places to live. He
disappeared from the community and was never heard of again.
Thomas was buried on his River Plantation. His wife was later buried beside
him. Here they remained for 150 years and more. The plantation had long since
passed out of the Hadley family's possession, the markers were broken, the
graves sadly neglected when, about the time Hadley
Woodard had the remains removed to her family plot in Maplewood Cemetery, A
was erected on the site bearing the inscription:
THOMAS HADLEY 1728-1781
Member of Convention which framed the Constitution of North Carolina,
Captain of North Carolina Militia in American Revolution
Fell in defense of his country's independence
His Wife - MARY THOMPSON - 1730-1795
My mother and I (John Hadley) visited their gravesite on the old plantation,
and also the family plot in Wilson, N.C. I put flowers on their graves,
expressed my gratitude at finding them, and gave a salute with pride to our
family's Revolutionary War hero and his brave wife.
GENERATION V - BENJAMIN HADLEY
Benjamin Hadley, son of Thomas and Mary Thompson Hadley, was bom in 1760 in
what is now Fayetteville, North Carolina. Ben was the last of our family to be
raised in the Quaker religion. Ben's father and brothers owned slaves and were
active in the American Revolution. Those that had not already left the Society
of Friends were asked to do so.
The details of Ben's life are largely unknown and other writers of Hadley
history have presented conflicting tales. The earliest recorded evidence of
Ben's life was on April 25, 1780 when he served as a witness to a land purchase
by his brother, Joshua.
After the Tories shot his father, Ben was taken to an isolated island in the
Cape Fear River, bound securely, and left to be tortured by insects. He
managed to escape and get back to his home. At this point in time the Tories
had defeated the Whigs in, North Carolina and the Hadley men were no doubt
hiding out and regrouping in the swamps.
On July 25, 1782 Ben's brothers, John and Thomas were named executors of Thomas
Ben was about 21 and it is believed that he moved to Burke County, Georgia,
possibly to escape further persecution by the Tories. His brothers, Simon and
John, were involved in land transactions in Fayetteville in 1783, but Ben
doesn't appear in any records in North Carolina until December 13,1788. On
this date he purchased 150 acres in the swamps of Locks Creek from
In the deed, Ben's residence is listed as Burke County, Georgia. His sister,
Jane, was a witness.
After his return to North Carolina, probably around 1785, he married Elizabeth
King of North Carolina and they had the following children:
Joshua Hadley, bom about 1786, married Obedience Cranthum;
Mary Hadley, married James Thompson.
Deed Book 7, p. 255 19 He 43
3 N.C. Records 358-7
23Deed Book 11, p.4
Joshua. All were listed as owning slaves, The census lists twenty-one Hadleys
who were heads of families in North Carolina at that date.
From Mrs. Phillip W Bryant, Surveyor General Department, State of Georgia,
Atlanta: "In the index to the headright and bounty grants, I find only
that a person named Benjamin Hadley was granted 250 acres in Burke County in
1793; 100 acres in Burke County in 1789; and 100 acres in Burke County in 1789.
In the 1805 Lottery a Benjamin Hadley, living in Montgomery County
at the time, received two draws, but both were blank and he received no land.
A Benjamin Hadley, living in Burke County, in this lottery also received two
blank draws." I
On April 30, 1790 Ben provided some of his slaves to serve in maintaining the
road which serviced his mother's home as well as the home of his brother, John
In the January 1791 term of the Court of Pleas, Ben was chosen to serve as a
juror and a grand juror, his name being recorded in a number of cases heard.
On January 18, 1791 the estate papers of Thomas Hadley were processed and his
personal property was divided amongst his children. The original documents are
still preserved in the North Carolina Archives. Ben's signature and those of
all his brothers and sister, Jane, are clear and legible. Ben received two
slaves, a mother and son, named Amy and Charlie.
On October 13,1795 Ben bought a parcel of land on the north side of the Cape
Fear River from Samuel Manley. One border was adjacent to his brother Thomas'
Along with the estate papers of Thomas Hadley found in the North Carolina
Archives, is an accounting of a trust, formed from Thomas' estate, for the
benefit of Benjamin Hadley. Ben Hadley was the ward of Benjamin Farmer, who
was his guardian. Apparently, Farmer "mishandled" the funds while
Ben was in Georgia, because Ben hired an attorney named William Duffy in 1804
and sued Farmer. The ,judgment June 15,1808 was in Ben's favor and was for
over 325 pounds.
Ben probably lived in comfort on his land in North Carolina from 1795 until
1805 with his wife and two children. In 1805 a pestilence hit Fayetteville and
many people died. The epidemic killed Ben's brother Thomas and his wife. It
has also been suggested that Ben's wife may have died and also Simon's wife and
children. In 180Benjamin was listed in the 1790 census in Fayetteville with
his brothers Simon, Thomas, Jesse and his brothers Simon and Jesse. They moved
to Montgomery County, Georgia. Ben left his almost fully grown children with
his wife's family in North Carolina.
The records of the Georgia Land Lottery - 1805
Ambrose Hadley, Warren Co. - 2 draws
Benjamin Hadley, Montgomery Co. - 2 draws
Benjamin Hadley, Burke Co. - 2 draws
John Hadley, Burke Co. - 1 draw
Simon Hadleij, Montgomery Co. - 2 draws
T'honws Hadley, Montgomery Co. - 2 draws
Much speculation exists about there being two Ben Hadleys in Georgia in 1805.
There is a probable reason, not mentioned by other Hadley genealogies. It's
possible that there was only one Ben Hadley and he entered twice to improve his
odds for obtaining more land. He still owned
land in Burke County,
Chalmers - p. 46
Healton - p. 52
Fields, pp. 288-289
Fields, pp. 312 & 313 24
9,N.C. Deed Book 17, p. 187
10 N.C. ArcHves
Ben moved to Montgomery County, Mississippi sometime prior to 1810. There he
met and married Elizabeth (Bettie) Kenderson (Kennelson, Kinnison). No
marriage record has been found. Ben and Bettie had the following children:
Jessie, bom about 1810, married 1) Julia Johnson, 2) Phoebe Smith;
James, bom about 1810-1817, married Elisha Boone;
Cynthia, bom about 1812, married (Duffle); Simon,
and settled in Montgomery County with his brothers.
Simon Hadley was listed in the 1820 census as born May 1818, married Carolina
John, born Sept. married Nellie Johnson;
William, born about 1821, married Sallie Stuart;
James, born about 1825 , married Betty Stuart.
From Jane Melton, assistant Librarian, State of Mississippi, Department of
Archives and History, Jackson, Miss. :
Our reference to the Kennisons, sometimes spelled Kinnison, as given in the
index to 1810 and 1816 census records place these people in Franklin County,
Mississippi at that time.
Benjamin Hadley was also listed as being in Franklin County in 1810-12
From the Franklin County courthouse records in Meadville, Mississippi;
Hadley, Benjamin from Nicholas Greg - Reg - Certificate of entry NW 1/4, S 13,
T 7, R 4 March 23,1816 Book A, p. 217 Hadley, Benjamin to Joshua Hadley -
transfer of SW 1/4, S 13, T 7, R 4, July 21, 1817 Book A, p. 218 Hadley,
Benjamin to Joshua Hadley - deed of gift to 2 slaves - Feb 11, 1817 - p. 162
Ben's son Joshua, from his first marriage, was himself married in 1817, so it
is likely that the land and slaves were a wedding present.
Family legend tells that Ben fought with Andy Jackson in the Battle of New
Orleans, during the War of 1812. No records have been found to verify this,
however. Ben was also said to have received a Spanish land grant to 640 acres
in Escambia County, Florida, as a result of his service in the War of 1812. We
do know that Ben did have ownership of 640 acres in Escambia County, Florida,
prior to that area being officially surveyed and laid out once it became a
possession of the U.S.A. This area was later annexed to the new state of
Alabama. Ben's original settlement in Escambia County was part of what
Bettie Kenderson died about 1826. There is some uncertainty as to her death
date, but it is probable she died before Ben, as she isn't mentioned in his
There has been confusion among writers of the history of the Hadleys as to the
date of Ben's death. Until this research, it has been listed as 1826.
Fortunately, the writer (William Hadley) was able to obtain the original
hand-written will of Ben Hadley and his signature is dated February
17, 1830. It is claimed to be a 'death bed" will and was dictated to and
written by Lee Slaughter and witnessed by him and Charles T. McConnico. The
signature of Ben Hadley is shaky but unique and distinguishable.
Ben was buried near his home-site known as Seven Miles Springs. The land is
now fenced and belongs to the Container Company of America. Anyone wishing to
find the burial site would need assistance from the overseer of the property.
There is no clearly defined road to the burial ground, but it is approximately
three miles south of Latham, on the road to Rabun, and one-half mile west, back
toward the Stockton road. Family legend relates that he wanted his faithful
old Negro slave buried at his feet. Although there are approximately twenty
graves in the family burial site, marked with large boulders headstones and
smaller ones as footstones, there is only one where there is a marker facing
north; all others, as is the custom, face east. Negroes in Alabama at that
time were not buried among whites. It is rare to find such a practice now,
over 150 years later. In this case, however, the writer (William Hadley)
believes the grave facing north
is that of the servant at the foot of his master's grave. Could it have been
Charlie, Amy's son, the slave boy he inherited from his father's estate?
Ben left behind a young family of orphan children and Negro slaves. The 1830
Baldwin County, Alabama census shows a listing for a Jesse Hadley as follows: 2
males over 5 and under 19 years of age (Willam and James); 2 males over 10 and
under 15 years of age (Simon and John); I male over 15 and
11 Healton, p.49
12 Healton, p. 52
13 lbid, p. 52 25
14 American State P Vol. 4, p. 117 Rep H. No. 4
over 15 and under 20 years of age Jane); 1 female over 30 and under 40 years of
age (?); 2 slaves - I male and one female.
h-t Ben's will there were five slaves listed, so it's very possible that three
were sold to help support the family income. The o 40 years old. If this
I in the 1830 census that doesn't fit is the one female between 30 and mother,
Bettie, no evidence has been found.
Family legend has it that Ben's children were raised by the older children and
by the Negro slaves.
Baldwin County, Alabama Deed Book C, page 298
Benjamin Hadley deeded to Jesse Hadley, Jane Hadley, Sinthia Hadley, Simon
Hadley, John Hadley, William Hadley and James Hadley, sons and daughters of
Benjamin Hadley, in consideration of the natural love and affection he has
toward Jesse, Jane, Sinthia, Simon, John, William and James, also for the
better support, maintenance and livelihood of them, that parcel of land lying
in West Florida known by the name of Rich-Lands Pond tract containing 640
acres, also an improvement on public lands lying and being on the west side of
Alabama River known by the name of Hadley's improvement.
In testimony whereof I have here unto set my hand and seal this seventeenth day
of February, 1820. Signed, Ben Hadley
Deed of from Benjamin Hadley:
Know all men by these presents, that I Benjamin Hadley of the County of Baldwin
and State of Alabama, for and in consideration of the natural love and
affection which I bear to my children to zoit, Jessie Hadley, Jane Hadley,
Synthia Hadley, Simon Hadley, John Hadley, William Hadley and James Hadley of
the County of Baldwin and state aforesaid, as well as for the further
consideration of one dollar to me in hand paid by the said Jessie Hadley, Jane
Hadley, Synthia Hadley, Simon Hadley, John Hadley, William Hadley and James
Hadley, at or before the unsealing and delivery of these presents, the receipt
whereof I do hereby acknowledge and given and granted and by these presents do
give and grant unto the said Jessie Hadley, Jane Hadley, Synthia Hadley, Simon
Hadley, John Hadley, William Hadley and James Hadley these are actual
administrators and officers, one Negro slave named Nance, one Negro woman named
Mariah, one Negro woman named Fellis, one Negro woman named Esther, a stock of
cattle, hogs, horses, household and kitchen furniture - to have and to hold the
said personal property unto them the said Jessie Hadley, Jane Hadley, Synthia
Hadley, Simon Hadley, John Hadley, William Hadley and James Hadley these
executors administrators and officers forever, and the said Benjamin Hadley for
himself, his executors and administrators the said personal property, unto the
Jessie Hadley, Jane Hadley, Synthia Hadley, Simon Hadley, John Hadley, William
Hadley and James Hadley, their ancestors administrators and officers against
the claim of him the said Benjamin Hadley, his ancestors and administrators,
and against the claim or claims of all and every person or persons whatsoever
shall and will warrant and forever defend them by their presents. Signed and
Sealed and delivered in presence of Lee Slaughter, Charles T McConnico. In
testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal this 17th day of Feb.
A.D. 1830. Ben Hadley.
GENERATION VI AND VII, JOHN I AND JOHN II
John Hadley, son of Benjamin and Elizabeth Kenderson (Kennelson, Kinnison)
Hadley, was born September 15,1820 in North Baldwin County, Alabama, near Seven
As John's father and mother had died when he and his brothers and sisters were
quite young, he had to become self-reliant at an early age. He worked on a
farm for awhile, and by the time he was a teenager he was a rider for the U.S.
Pony Express for a Mr. Ward Taylor, who contracted the route.
John continued with the Pony Express for nine years, during which time he and
one of his brothers pooled their money and built up a sizable herd of
livestock. They then went into the livestock business full-time.
John Hadley married Nellie Johnson in 1848. She was born in Georgia, August
22,1814, and moved with her family to Baldwin County, Alabama as a young child.
John and Nellie had the following
Date: December 26, 1998
Some very important stuff here. We've found the 2
earliest documents for Simon Hadley in Ireland. (1668 and 1672) The
previously known earliest document was 1781 so this really is meaningful.
Also found the earliest known Quaker reference (1785), 12 years earlier
than previously known. The presentation I made to the Hadley Society in
October is now being put on their website and newsletters in segments. I
rambled on for almost 3 hours, so they could have enough for several years
of newsletters !! I'm also going to forward some reports done for me in
1993 by an English genealogy firm, Debrett. This disproves the earlier
theory as to our descendency from the famous Hadleys of Somerset. There is
much of this erroneous information on the internet in Gedcom files, and I
hope that this research will convince people to quit reporting disproven
lineages.It's certainly tempting to claim Edward III as a relative, but
entirely untrue. The Hadleys were well to do, but not royalty. We are now
looking into the Talbot family, who were and still are of the noble class,
as we have found evidence of Talbot landholdings very near where Simon was
supposed to have settled in Ireland. This fits with my Shropshire theory,
and may provide the documentation we have been looking for. Simon Hadley
Sr. married Catherine Talbot. The Talbots were the Earls of Shrewsbury in
Shropshire. This link to the Shropshire Hadley family in the reports is not
proven, but is only a theory I'm working on. Anyway, hope you enjoy all
this musty old stuff, and that we're not burdening you with your internet
October 25, 1998
I enjoy your reports so much, please keep them coming! You mentioned a book
"A Hadley History" by Peter Hadley. Where could I find a copy? I
would have been at the reunion if not for an accident & surgery.
Had planned to attend with another Hadley "cousin" that lives in
Limestone Co TX. There are a few Hadleys buried there in the Ferguson cemetery
in Groesbeck, TX.
Thanks, Diane in Conroe, TX
October 19, 1998
This is the "final" report sent to me by our Irish researcher. I just
returned from the Hadley family reunion and really enjoyed meeting all the
Hadley relatives in the Hadley genealogical society of southern California.
The forwarded portion below is an explanation of the Freeman of Dublin and
special grace versus fine issue. In all of the work I have compiled I was able
to summarize some of the "new" findings and will relist them here so
you can update your own versions as you see fit.
1) The earliest proven reference to Simon I is the 1668 listing of Symon Hadly
being made a Freeman of Dublin. This is solid evidence that he was not born in
Dublin and that he was a smyth in Dublin prior to this date.
2) The 1672 baptismal of Sollomon Hadley at St Michans church in Dublin. The
parents were Symon Hadly, smyth, and Catherine. This was provided by Joan Case
and has opened up some interesting other avenues of investigation.
3) The other Hadleys listed in the St Michans listings were also blacksmiths
and possibly were relatives who worked with or for Symon.
4) The earliest known Quaker record of Simon from 1685. This is 12 years
earlier than they were thought to have joined the Friends.
5} The Quaker Meeting records giving additional info on why the Hadleys were
"troublesome". The first listing of these troubles was regarding
young Symon Hadly cutting in on another man who had permission to speak to Ruth
(Miller, Keron ? ) about marriage. As I pointed out in my presentation to the
HGSSC, it's a good thing for all of us that he did !
6) The earliest known reference to the name Hadley was in 889, prior to the
Domesday listing in Shropshire by almost 200 years. Since this is not in any of
the previous reports I've sent out to you, I'll get into some of the detail
here. I have heard the name as going back to about 600 when the Saxons invaded
England but have no solid references yet. This reference was sent to me in a
letter from DB Hadley of Upham Hampshire England. In Peter Hadley's " A
Hadley History" May 1978 he quotes John Weever's "Ancient Funerall
Monuments" (1631) as follows: " After he (Gurmond or Gurthrum, a
Danish king) had governed these counties of Suffolke and Norfolke the
space of twelve years complete, he died and was buried in the king's towne,
called Headlega ( so Hadley was called in the Saxon language) in Suffolke among
the east English, in the year 889."
7) From Thomas Hamm I learned that Joshua Hadley had an illegitimate child with
Margery Lindley about the time he married Patience Brown.
8) The wills of Symon and John Hadly from Shropshire in 1590 and 1630
respectively hold promise to be our family before Simon I.
9) A greater amount of detail regarding the lives of my direct line: Simon,
Simon, Joshua, Thomas, Benjamin, John, John, Joseph, William, John (me). Very
little of this is in the reports I have shared from Great Britain, so you will
just have to wait until I finally publish all this
stuff. Hopefully this winter. I've done particularly well with Thomas and
Benjamin as far as additional detail.
10) The listing of John Hadley and his son and grandson as being gunsmiths.
This was Simon the immigrant's brother who remained in Ireland. The making of
guns was certainly an offshoot of the family blacksmith business and also was
very probably what got Symon in hot water with the Friends. Providing arms to
oppose the English was very serious stuff indeed and has gone on ever since. We
can only hope that the recent agreement there will turn out to be successful
and that the peace desired by our Quaker forebearers for the last 300 years
will finally become a reality.
PS I got a really big bonus for attending the family reunion. One member has a
photo of the painting of Joshua Hadley, Thomas' son who was a captain in
Washington's continental army. The photo is referred to in some of Chalmers
Hadley's letters I have, but I had not been able to find it.
They had numerous old family photos on display that everyone brought and that
was really interesting to me. Terry McLean promised to send me a copy of this
photo and I really appreciate this. They also gave me a key chain knife
engraved with my name and the HGSSC name. I will use and cherish it for the
fond memory of meeting all these kind people. Some important
things were discussed including getting all their data on a CD Rom format,
including the photos. I would like to encourage everyone of us to help these
people to organize our efforts. Join the Society, participate in the
newsletters and let's set up a ROOTS-L forum for internet exchange. Let other
people who you correspond with know about these efforts, and encourage them to
participate. With the growth in communication via the internet, this will
become the major form of communication, and our members will continue to
expand. No single person can do as well as many working together. We all obtain
our information from the help of others anyway, and it's one of the best things
about studying genealogy. All the friends you make along the way.
October 16, 1998
To John Hadley:
This is just a quick note to answer the questions you posed in your last
e-mail, before you head off:
In your earlier correspondence you said Symon was made a Freeman of Dublin by
Fine and by Special Grace. In this last report you say SG but no fine. What is
the correct version? He was made a Freeman at the first available time, the
quarterly Easter shindig, so one would assume he had some pull with the higher
ups. Was SG awarded easily or only for a few?
Enrollment as a Freeman by special grace was limited. The more usual methods
were by birth, by marriage, or by service (serving an apprenticeship).
Special grace would have meant that Simon Hadley was given permission to enroll
although he had no familial links with the city of Dublin, or had not served
his apprenticeship in the city. However he would have still have had to pay a
small 'fine'. This fine was usually payable when the rules were being 'bent'
slightly. On another occasion, (another genealogy) I came across
a man who had served his apprenticeship to a master craftsman. The master
craftsman, in this
instance a goldsmith, had himself served his apprenticeship, but had never
applied to be made a freeman.
Once his apprentice had finished his time he applied to be made a freeman of
Dublin, but he had
to first pay a fine, prior to his enrollment. This appears to have been in
recognition that the rules had been 'swayed' on his behalf. The master
goldsmith was soon after compelled to enroll as a Freeman.
The Quaker contribution in 1685 is a significant "new" bit of
information as it is far earlier than previously known, regarding affiliation
with the faith. I think the other Hadleys at St Michans may be a serious lead
in that they were possibly related.
This might well be the case, especially as the other Hadleys all appear to be
blacksmiths. I.e. not simply sharing an unusual family name, but the same
trade. I'll mull over this and see if I can come up with any ideas for
extending this link. However I must tell you that the *only* Hadley that I
found entered as a Freeman of the city of Dublin between 1660 and 1725 was
Simon Hadley. Hence it may be very difficult, and maybe even impossible to
take this link further.
The off the shelf Quaker book from early times is a pisser. I'm getting stuff
like this in England as well. They won't cop to the fact that it's been lost or
stolen, but you'd think someone would
care enough to try to find such a rare source of genealogical documentation.
Are there any other copies ? Like in London ?
I don't know if there are other copies for sale, however, I could photo-copy
the volume in the Quaker Library in Donnybrook.
One thing I don't get is this Freeman deal. I thought earlier that the English
ruled the roost and that native born Irish were discriminated against. Yet
here's this law that prohibits the English immigrants from practicing their
trade unless they paid the fine for the privilege, or had some other influence
to have them made Freemen.
The established church in Ireland was the Anglican Church of Ireland. The real
problem here was the King of England, also the King of Ireland was head of the
established church. There was a political understanding that loyalty to the
King required loyalty to the established church. In addition religion so
infused people's day to day lives, in a way that it doesn't in today's secular
society, that a person's religious outlook, could also determine their notion
of Prerogative, Natural and secular law etc. This issue affected Protestant
dissenting sects as much as Catholics. (Dissenters, 'dissented' or disagreed
with the notions of the established church). The best example of this is how
the radical puritans who came to dominate the English Parliament by the early
1640s were able to execute the King, and declare a Commonwealth in England for
most of the 1650s. (Other examples of politically radical Protestant sects
were the Diggers and the Levellers, many of whom are still cited by Marxists,
and Marxist historians, as forerunners of socialist ideas).
Hope you have a good weekend, in the best Hadley tradition of course,
Irish Historical and Genealogical Research Services
The O'Reilly Institute,
Date: October 2, 1998
Hi. My name is Chris Hadley. I live in Indianapolis, Indiana, but now
I'm a student at the University of Dayton, Ohio. I just wanted to
compliment you on this page. It's incredible, to say the least. Thanks
for the great work.
Date: September 22, 1998
Question: Do you have copies of all the other Family coat of arms?
There are about two dozen all together, from both England and Ireland.
I think I have copies of most of them in my files.
I believe I met your grandfather Lyle at a family get together here in
Indiana quite a few years ago. I think he was with Wallace Hadley of
Mooresville, In. and my grandfather, Harol D. Hadley, and he said he was
from St. Petersburg, Fl. Lyle, Wallace and quite a few other Hadleys
were in constant communication on genealogy over the years. Wallace was
the one that got me interested in the family history and started giving
me copies of his files. This was around 1960 as I remember.
Regretfully, after Wallace died, I do not know what happened to the
original Hadley genealogy he had worked on for so many years.
Jim, it would be great if we could
put your coat of arms collection up on the web. And thanks for
the pictures of the Simon Hadley house.
Date: August 20, 1998
Hello Art, enjoyed your web pages. I am hunting information on my
grandmother, Ida Alice HADLEY b. 1 Nov. 1872 Johnson Co. Tx. d. 27 July
1921 married James N. DILLARD 1 January 1891. I will be anxious to hear
Date: June 26, 1998
I have just seen your Web Site, thanks to John Hadley who pointed me
to it. You have done a nice job and I appreciate particularly your
posting of John's reports. It will be a great resource.
I am putting a link to your page on our Official Hadley Web Site.
Thanks so much.
Terry Pickens McLean
Historian, Hadley Society
VISIT the HADLEY SOCIETY Home Page at:
Date: June 23, 1998
Larry sent a note about his genealogy
He has written a book on the history of the
Cronkite family, and a book on the Hadley family.
Date: June 15, 1998
I just found your Hadley page and would love to know if you have any
information on William or George Hadley, who owned a large tract of land in
Riverdale NY in the late 1700's. They were my forebears and I have really
no information on them except that one of them had a daughter, Mary, who
married William Caspar Samler, and became my great great grandparents.
Her father gave her a piece of this property as a wedding present , so
family folklore relates. I have a lovely Sheraton table that belonged to
them and was told that its provenance was Hadley, Massachussetts. So they
must have been there at some point.
If you have any information that relates to these people I would be
more than delighted, to say the least.
Date: May 24, 1998
Your grandfather, Lyle Hadley, wrote my father William Hadley, on
several occasions. My dad died 6 years ago and my mother and I took up the
task of finishing his family history. I have attached several reports from
genealogists concerning the Hadley family. I have found a family of Hadleys
from Shropshire England that used the name Simon. In all my searching I
have not encountered another listing for any Simon Hadleys from the right
time and place. I hope you enjoy these and will pass them on to any other
family members who might be interested. I have the 3 volumes of your
grandfather's works, and am in contact with many descendents who are also
working to fill in some information gaps and to try to find our English
roots. My theory is that we are descended from the family from Shropshire
and we are still trying to find more data about this family. Let me know
what you think.
For more information on the Shropshire
area, try this
United Kingdom Genealogy
Then click CONTENTS, on the upper left corner.
Following are documents (11k to 40k .doc files, should open automatically in
Windows Wordpad) John provided. If you have a virus protection program, it may
keep your system from automatically bringing up Wordpad. In that case, just
save the files, then find them on your own disk and double click on them to
open the document.
Report on Hadley Search
"Search: for the family of Simon Hadley Sr., and his sons Simon Jr. And John."
Petition to Simon Hadley
"Subject: Petition and Claims of Symon Hadley of Ballynakill in the Kings
Hadley Report #1
"Subject: Search Quatt parish register, dates from 1672"
Hadley Report #2
"Subject: PCC will abstracts"
Hadley Report #3
"Subject: Search calendars of wills for Hadley"
Hadley Report #4
"Subject: Second batch of PCC wills "
Hadley Report #5
"Subject: Talbots, general history of Shropshire"
Hadley Report #6
Hadley Report #7
"Subject: Manorial Documents Register"
The Debrett report
Date: April 15, 1998
Jere D. Hadley
I am now in the process of creating a new Web site, I will let you know
when it is finished and let you know what the address is. Thanks for the
reply. I am located in Indiana, and found much of my family background in a
They have a
most of the Hadley family history is stored.
It appears that about 600 Hadleys moved from North Carolina here and
established one of the first land grants in the then "Indiana Territory".
Will write you more later. Again, thanks Art, for replying.
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